the WalMart gOS vs. the community? Nah.
I occasionally read, and usually enjoy, the Blog of Helios, written by a man who dedicates his entire being towards spreading Linux and evangelizing about the wonders and awesomeness that is Linux. I applaud him and his great Komputers4Kids project.
And his opinions are usually pretty dead-on, in my eyes.
But recently, Helios cried fowl at the Everex gOS GreenPC, the $200 'little' sold-out-at-WalMart, Ubuntu-based, E17-sporting, Linux computer. Apparently, *their* idea of an easy-to-use computer, with the gOS Operating System, differs from Helios' idea of an easy-to-use computer. Being that both are based on GNU/Linux, Helios fears that forever, Linux will be known as a wimpy, washed-out OS.
Helios bases all of this fear, it appears, on the fact that the gOS uses "shelves" in its Enlightenment 17 window environment, and goes on to say that the Elive distro has done E17 right:
Am I wrong to think that the majority of Linux issues are pretty much tamed these days? Aren't the majority of rough edges ironed out of most mainstream distributions? So if a user looked up HowTos for installing software on gOS, might they not hear about Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Elive or PCLinuxOS, somewhere along the line of asking for help or looking for other softwares? Won't this possibly interest them, especially if they are dissatisfied with the gOS?
If the user knows that gOS is based on Linux, don't you think that they might have an inkling as to what other options there may be? Or at least look around, before spending money on a computer that can barely run Vista?
Maybe I am an optimistic geek, but I think the sales of the GreenPC can only help computing and computer knowledge, and help Linux. It is bringing computing within an affordable range for a lot of people in the United States. The gOS is putting GNU/Linux in front* of the eyes of about one-third of the US population, weekly. Not all shoppers are going to see the computer section of the store, but those that are shopping for computers very likely will. And yes, money (price) does speak; so soon will the stability of Linux speak to more and more Desktop users. Thank goodness.
Helios, lets let the future arrive on its own terms, and in the long run we'll all be happier. All righty then ;)
* You know, over there.... over behind those CDs, between the lawnchairs and the out-of-work local economy...
And his opinions are usually pretty dead-on, in my eyes.
But recently, Helios cried fowl at the Everex gOS GreenPC, the $200 'little' sold-out-at-WalMart, Ubuntu-based, E17-sporting, Linux computer. Apparently, *their* idea of an easy-to-use computer, with the gOS Operating System, differs from Helios' idea of an easy-to-use computer. Being that both are based on GNU/Linux, Helios fears that forever, Linux will be known as a wimpy, washed-out OS.
Helios bases all of this fear, it appears, on the fact that the gOS uses "shelves" in its Enlightenment 17 window environment, and goes on to say that the Elive distro has done E17 right:
Helios, buddy, really? Isn't the whole point of Free software to make it your own? No one owns the software, no one can stop you, or others, from customizing it. That is one of the Four Rights under the GPL, and you, Helios, want to take that away from a commercial company for putting their foot forward with some new concepts? A concept (shelves), by the way, I thought was a part of E17 already (since at least March 2007), and appear on the next release of Elive itself?I've never seen a "Linux" distro that has shelves. Gadgets, yes...widgets, most certainly, but the "shelves" thing is a stretch.
In a nutshelf...I mean nutshell, my complaint with this "distro" is that is takes a nasty 90 degree turn from what me and thousands of other Linux Advocates are offering and/or training other new Linux Users on.
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I run Elive on two other production machines and as far as I am concerned, the developer of Elive belts it out of the park with his adaptation of the Enlightenment Desktop Environment.
Am I wrong to think that the majority of Linux issues are pretty much tamed these days? Aren't the majority of rough edges ironed out of most mainstream distributions? So if a user looked up HowTos for installing software on gOS, might they not hear about Ubuntu or Kubuntu or Elive or PCLinuxOS, somewhere along the line of asking for help or looking for other softwares? Won't this possibly interest them, especially if they are dissatisfied with the gOS?
If the user knows that gOS is based on Linux, don't you think that they might have an inkling as to what other options there may be? Or at least look around, before spending money on a computer that can barely run Vista?
Maybe I am an optimistic geek, but I think the sales of the GreenPC can only help computing and computer knowledge, and help Linux. It is bringing computing within an affordable range for a lot of people in the United States. The gOS is putting GNU/Linux in front* of the eyes of about one-third of the US population, weekly. Not all shoppers are going to see the computer section of the store, but those that are shopping for computers very likely will. And yes, money (price) does speak; so soon will the stability of Linux speak to more and more Desktop users. Thank goodness.
Helios, lets let the future arrive on its own terms, and in the long run we'll all be happier. All righty then ;)
* You know, over there.... over behind those CDs, between the lawnchairs and the out-of-work local economy...

5 Comments:
At 28 November, 2007 11:32 ,
kozmcrae said...
Your arguments are obviously genuine and when you ask if you are an optimistic geek I would answer "a little". That's my take on this in my limited experience. I don't want Helios to be right, but he has had more shared-atmosphere time with the public regarding Linux than anyone I can think of.
I suspect that most people buying the gPC from Wal-Mart are getting the right computer for the wrong reasons. As long as they understand the limitations, which are not limited to the software alone, they will be happy. But if this is to be the launching point for "Linux for the masses", does it mean the end of our tidy little ecosystem? I think so. But will it be as comfortable as the old ecosystem? I don't know. I think the layout of the final landscape will elude all but those who retrofit their theories to the final outcome.
At 28 November, 2007 18:52 ,
lefty crupps said...
>does it mean the end of our tidy little ecosystem? I think so.
Yes, I agree, it does. Also, probably a lot more support opportunities for small businesses which specialize in Linux, and a lot of the Linux users I know *enjoy* helping others through FLOSS issues. Within those gOS customers, 1% of the children, or whatever number you'd prefer, will geek out and learn enough to help the ecosystem sustain itself. Other users will use it exactly as its designed, afraid to change anything (good advice in the Windows world, but bad habits die hard and it's not such an issue in desktop Linux, nor very fun). Yet other users will grow comfortable enough with it to recommend it to friends and thus, the world will spread.
>But will it be as comfortable as the old ecosystem?
Probably not, but if its to believed from the 'old timers', life in the FLOSS ecosystem was a lot better than before *I* came along, or whomever. The olden days are always the best, aren't they?
What I mean to say is, the gOS is helping on multiple fronts:
1) Getting people to use an alternative to closed, proprietary software, at an affordable cost
2) Getting computers into the hands of many more people in the US; with the income gap widening, I see this as a huge benefit
3) Opening the idea in people's minds that they don't *need* application X, nor Y, nor MSOffi... er, Z.
4) The "unwashed masses" are exactly those that *spread the ideas* that others have. Either you want desktop GNU/Linux/FLOSS use to spread, or you don't. If you do, then we have to allow it to happen *somehow*, and the 1-pc-at-a-time home install isn't going to get us there. It takes money, usually corporate, and work to get preinstalled systems on a retailers shelves. Cananocal (*buntu) hasn't done this, nor Novell (Suse/OpenSuse), nor RedHat (Fedora). So, how does it get out there?
I completely agree that Helios has much more experience with all of this, and I am very interested in his new exercise about selecting the most 'noob-friendly' applications: http://blog.lobby4linux.com/index.php?/archives/364-Doin-it-for-the-Noob....html
I am also very interested in what distro Helios actually installs for people, and how long it takes him to customize it each time... but I don't think his effort and experience allows him a monopoly on the concept of "an easy-to-use OS."
It will never happen that /everyone/ wants to customize their desktop, nor car, nor kitchen -- we all have our interests, and we stick with the 'good enough' for the rest of our lives. If the gOS is Good Enough for a lot of computer users, and its Free/Libre Open Source Software? Then that is sweet. If its not Good Enough, then they probably won't buy it.
Thank you for stopping by the blog, and for the discussion.... we can keep it up if you'd like?
At 29 November, 2007 02:22 ,
mundi said...
that hellius guy is probably part of Elive's inner community, chances are if he did not pay for his elive download, he's porbably a tester for elive.
atleast gos is readily available for download unlike elive.
At 29 November, 2007 04:25 ,
Ann said...
"It will never happen that /everyone/ wants to customize their desktop, nor car, nor kitchen -- we all have our interests, and we stick with the 'good enough' for the rest of our lives."
At 29 November, 2007 04:33 ,
Ann said...
Oops, posted before expected. Anyway ... thought that quoted thought was worth repeating.
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